LTM has agreed to leave snoonet as is and continue to allow us to run things as we see fit.".
His goal at LTM was to "protect and keep in tact what matters most: underground communities".īloodygonzo, a staffer, precised to the staff that "LTM has bought Snoonet and will officially cover snoonet and make sure we have the legal and administrative aid of LTM. ).Īt that time, rdv, a co-founder of Snoonet, was hired at LTM as (among other titles) "Community Relations Manager", and announced to the staff that he could now "offer LTM's resources to Snoonet the same resources provided to Freenode", while reassuring that "the idea is to keep IRC networks in tact and operational as they always were". In May 2017, Snoonet joins the the PIA family (. In December 2016, rasengan (via Private Internet Access) sponsors it (. There is the nickserv database that is likely under control of Andrew Lee now, although it's unclear on what infrastructure it runs, who owns it, who pays for it, where it is, etc. There are the individual servers, which as I understand it are under the control of their independent owners/maintainers, some of which are also "staff" but others aren't. There's the domain/website, presumably under control of Andrew. What I don't fully understand is the structure of the Freenode network.
Among them, who was elected as head of staff after 's resignation.
The other side seems to be the "staff", which seems to have mostly moved over to the libera.chat side now. The network was sold to Andrew Lee by Christel Dahlskjaer, who was head of staff until she resigned in March 2021. It doesn't help that various documents refer to the various actors either by their first name, last name, or screen name.Īndrew Lee currently controls the freenode domains and is being accused of a hostile takeover.
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Andrew Lee brought in new staff to freenode and some policy changes (notably allowing network ops to reclaim channels that were abandoned as redirects, and toning down the code of conduct portion). When it became clear that "Freenode" was owned by Andrew Lee, and not the volunteer run organisation they believed it to be, drama ensued over whether she had the legal right to (probably yes), whether it was morally appropriate to (probably not) and what she actually sold (Freenode runs via volunteer staff on loaned servers, none of which freenode ltd owns or has contracts for, so it basically just owns a domain and a website).Īfter the legal discussions found that Andrew Lee did legally own whatever freenode itself owned, the staff all quit and formed libera.chat, their own network. This was downplayed at the time, both publicly and to staff, so this is effectively delayed drama that would have happened in 2017 otherwise.Ĭhristel stepped down, new staff lead shut out Andrew Lee, not realising the depth of his ownership - helped by both Christel and Andrew Lee downplaying it in the past. Thank you to everyone who contributed to freenode, I wish I knew how I could help support it in the right way.Ĭhristel, the previous freenode head of staff, sold freenode to andrew lee (then of PIA). One fond memory I have is witnessing the first real Bitcoin crash a decade ago, I think it was from $50 down to $5 or something, and just before it happened these random nicks appeared in the channel and started trolling everyone. On the other hand freenode is where I knew I could contact someone working at a big company who might be able to resolve an issue and also get the word out about something. I cant imagine how hard it is to be a dev. I had one person convinced for 3 hours that I was for some reason a bad person because I asked a simple question about libraries, and well that was non stop abuse. I did encounter some poeple with "issues" where weirdly, I guess because we all try to use our nick, the confrontations are harsher ( than on anonymous places like the chans). Ive always used freenode to ask questions and 90% of the time it has been great. This is so sad, I have no idea whats happening but it doesnt sound good.
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